Does Anybody Ever Mention Raditz Again?

I've always had a weird fascination with this graphic symbol. I find it interesting how he's the primary character's brother and all the same he's killed off in well-nigh 6 episodes. Do y'all think Toriyama should've kept him around? Exercise y'all think it was necessary to call him Goku'southward blood brother rather than only another Saiyan?

Post past **Dr. Casey** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:27 am

I think that part of the story would have lost something were Raditz but a random Saiyan rather than Goku'due south brother; if nothing else, the twist at least makes the chapter that much more compelling during someone's first read (Even if it never goes anywhere). "Goku'due south a Saiyan and the new villain is his brother" packs more punch than "Goku is a Saiyan." I did retrieve it was rather weird that Raditz died such a quick death, though what I found even weirder is that I'm not sure Raditz is ever mentioned again past Nappa'due south remark about the Globe Saibamen existence Raditz' equal in forcefulness... nobody drops characters or plot points quite similar Toriyama does. I'm pretty sure that in whatever other manga, Raditz would have at to the lowest degree been mentioned from time to time or expanded on a little bit (Such every bit the anime-only flashback with Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz did), since y'know... the main character's brother is kind of an important figure to gloss over to that degree. I don't recall there was any need for Raditz to have more of an influence, but the fact that his presence was so completely unfelt throughout the rest of the serial did ever band rather oddly to me.

I call up information technology's a point in the story's favor, though, that Raditz feels so detached from the overall narrative, whether information technology'due south intentional or non. Raditz barely feels like Goku's blood brother to me at all because his fourth dimension in the story is so brief and his role and then nonexistent. Goku is supposed to be very far removed from his Saiyan origins in many ways, and the fact that he seems so completely unrelated to his ain brother helps to emphasize that distance. Though I wouldn't mutter if the story was written differently since Raditz did have potential to exist an interesting enough characters, though the series probably would have felt (more) oversaturated with Saiyans if he stuck around.

Post by **Rocketman** » Sun October 09, 2011 12:48 am

I still think it would be interesting to encounter how things would go if Raditz was the Saiyan to stick effectually instead of Vegeta.

Mail past **Son_Gohan** » Sunday October 09, 2011 12:59 am

His presence was more of a build up for the stronger Saiyans, in that location wasn't much point to go on him in the story after that. I recall the fact that he was labeled equally Goku's brother had a more meaningful touch to the plot because it vividly represents only how ruthless the Saiyans are, in that Raditz wasn't hesitate at all to killing Goku if he had failed to follow orders, despite existence family.

Post by **Fox666** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:13 am

The signal of Raditz being Goku's blood brother was to make information technology even more plausible for him to travel for ane year searching for him. After that, Vegeta and Nappa were looking for the Dragon Balls.

Post by **jjgp1112** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:28 am

Aye, at that place doesn't seem to exist much to him. However, I practice like the function he takes on in a especially expert fanfic called Bespeak of No Return where Trunks goes as well far dorsum in fourth dimension and ends upwards on a planet being purged by Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz, and eventually, due to circumstances, Raditz instead forms an brotherhood with the earthlings due to how dire things are on the Saiyans' terminate and slowly becomes a good guy.

Post past **Piccolo Daimaoh** » Sunday Oct 09, 2011 2:17 am

Raditz'south sole purpose in the series was to advance the plot. He was, essentially, the span between Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. While I think there's some truth to the idea that he should've got more than attention because he's the protagonist'southward brother, the impact he had on the story and its characters was withal undeniably huge.

Also, "Double Lord's day" is the coolest technique e'er.

Mail past **dragonpiece** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:28 am

Not trying to be a fake modern, but shouldn't this exist in the "In Universe Give-and-take" section of the forum?

Post by **dbgtFO** » Lord's day Oct 09, 2011 6:46 am

Dr. Casey wrote:I did remember information technology was rather weird that Raditz died such a quick death, though what I found fifty-fifty weirder is that I'm not sure Raditz is ever mentioned again by Nappa's remark about the Earth Saibamen being Raditz' equal in strength... nobody drops characters or plot points quite like Toriyama does.

Raditz was mentioned by Freeza, when he realized Gohan was a Saiyan. Freeza and so came to the decision that Raditz had fathered Gohan, since he looked the most similar him.

Mail service by **Piccolo Daimao** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:32 am

I recollect I'g going to repost a post that caejones reposted on another Raditz thread I fabricated a while ago.

cajeones wrote:Because that Raditz bears family connections to Goku, it's pretty strange that he merely dies and disappears inside hours of his arrival--less than 6 episodes in the anime, a few pages in the manga (the one DBZ manga I actually own is the Raditz fight... well, most of it... I forget if the whole matter is in that 1 book), and if we try to make sense of the fourth dimension that passes in the story... it is well under a twenty-four hours between Raditz's arrival on Earth and his death.

So, what depth do we go with Raditz? It'due south brutally articulate how dissimilar he is from Goku--all about the killing, the destruction, even willing to take out his brother and young nephew to prove how ruthless he is. But that's not all, is it? Raditz seems to care well-nigh the fact that he and "Kakarot" are of saiyan origin; he seems intent on convincing his brother that because they are both saiyans, they must follow the aforementioned path. Goku, however, doesn't care at all nearly his race or his heritage--he is his own person, and he isn't most to kill innocents just because some rich alien asked him to.
Then there are the similarities--just these similarities emphasis a few differences. For example, Raditz and Goku both have ridiculously big hair--only Raditz's is bigger and flows downward his dorsum. In early DB (commencement appearances) Goku spent a lot of time with minimal clothing; Raditz doesn't seem to vesture anything just boots, underwear and chest armor... but Goku never went around in underwear and armor--information technology was all or cypher (unless weighted article of clothing comes into the picture), and he certainly didn't habiliment anything to protect himself in battle; and with Raditz, his exposed legs and artillery emphasis his musculus tone and added to his condition every bit a strong, barbaric killer. Naked Goku accented Goku'due south innocence and fabricated for cutesy sense of humor--quite the dissimilarity! Goku's hair makes him wait goofy--Raditz's hair makes him look like a warrior. Goku eats fiercely because he's a bottomless pit of energy... and it's always a mildly disturbing, though typically comical scene when we see him attack a repast. When we see Raditz swallow, information technology'south very cold and farther accents the barbarian attribute--when Goku is out in the woods catching his ain nutrient, he makes information technology into a game. . . not so with Raditz.
What else does Raditz practice? What purpose does he serve? He introduces Goku's heritage, introduces a race of enemies and sets upwards a plotline that will lead to a not bad many things--Nappa, Vegeta, fifty-fifty Freeza are all initiated by Raditz... and each of these is pivotal to the story as it unfolds. He also serves to provide a situation in which Gohan can show his hidden powers, and for Goku to be killed and thus receive the preparation necessary to salvage the solar day when it next needs saving...
But across plot mechanics, Raditz serves to show us many things. Goku was always different from his enemies in the past, merely never had their relationship with him gone deeper than Tsuru Sen'nin's vengeful desires upon hearing of Goku'south defeat of TaoPaipai, or Piccolo Daimao reincarnating himself to continue his fight with Goku... who but fought him because he was killing people. But with Raditz, it's all about Goku--Raditz quite literally comes to the door and tries to drag Goku into a life that is completely reverse of what he has become. We know that Goku isn't going to join him without question--but we are still shown many things along the mode. We run across that Piccolo can change; we encounter the possibility of rivals joining forces to confront a common threat; we see that regardless of what Raditz may say about his family connexion to Goku or their race, he is still merely another threat, and he starts the trend of saiya(ji)n pride leading to defeat--though non then extreme as in later cases, Raditz completely underestimates Gohan and the power of Goku and Piccolo as a team. He is also surprised that Goku would sacrifice his life simply to defeat one threat, whereas Raditz is willing to sacrifice his dignity to doop a good guy similar Goku into releasing him from the jaws of decease. Substantially, Raditz shows us that information technology doesn't matter who yous're related to, what race you come from, or even how superior you are to the best--you'll still wind up meeting a dishonorable finish if you walk the path of evil.
The fact that Raditz dies and disappears then rapidly, even though he is a blood relation of the principal graphic symbol accents his main theme even further. So, he's Goku's brother. Merely that doesn't mean anything to Goku--he'due south all the same merely an evil brute trying to spread devastation and forcefulness others to become someone they aren't considering of something over which they accept no power. And nosotros know what Goku does to wanna-be serial killers... so Raditz's disappearance after his defeat follows the aforementioned theme as the entire Saiya(ji)north race: information technology doesn't matter who y'all're related to, what race you are, or what grade you're from... y'all're yet an individual, and your choices will shape your destiny.

... That said, more than Raditz would have been crawly.

I've ever liked Raditz, for reasons aforementioned. I've said earlier that I was unhappy that nosotros didn't go to see Raditz in the Bardock TV special. Assumedly, Toei didn't think he was of import plenty in the story to warrant an advent in the special, but I would've at least liked a footling cameo. After all, to those that first watched Dragon Brawl Z, he was the series' showtime villain, Bardock's son (and Bardock was the central character of the special), i of the Saiyans who actually appeared in the manga, and 1 of the Saiyans who escaped the destruction of the Saiyans and Planet Vegeta. Bardock was in the special, Goku was in information technology, Vegeta was in information technology, Nappa was in it, the Male monarch was in it...yet nosotros didn't even go a glimpse of a younger Raditz. It's as if he never existed.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Lord's day Oct 09, 2011 11:49 am

dragonpiece wrote:Not trying to be a fake modernistic, but shouldn't this be in the "In Universe Discussion" department of the forum?

Not really. While there's some discussion near the grapheme's impact on the plot, it'due south all from an outside perspective.

Postal service by **Plague-Memories** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:xxx pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote: One hell of a post.

This may very well accept been the greatest post apropos Raditz, and the all-time perspective I've e'er seen on the character, during my entire fandom of this series.
Thank you lot for that, sir.

Post by **Silver Sinspawn** » Sun October 09, 2011 8:55 pm

Does anyone else remember the what-if arc in Tenkaichi 2?
That's a pretty practiced descriptor of what would happen if he was a good guy.

Also, I'd like to bring your attention to Alternate Reality Dragon Ball Z

Postal service past **Choujin Daizenshuu** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:eleven am

If there is one thing to be fascinated most Raditz, it's his subtle distaste for 1981 Chevrolet C-Series pickup trucks.

Post by **DBZGTKOSDH** » Mon October 10, 2011 11:56 am

Silver Sinspawn wrote:Does anyone else remember the what-if arc in Tenkaichi two?
That's a pretty adept descriptor of what would happen if he was a good guy.

It'southward 1 of my favourite what-if.

Mail service by **Brodes_Vegetto** » Monday October 10, 2011 12:16 pm

I hoped that when I saw the Bardock Special that Raditz would accept had at least a small role in there somewhere only because he is a character that I didn't know much about so the special could of given some info into his back story.

Mail past **Piccolo Daimao** » Tue October 11, 2011 12:04 pm

Plague-Memories wrote:

Piccolo Daimao wrote: Ane hell of a postal service.

This may very well have been the greatest post concerning Raditz, and the all-time perspective I've ever seen on the character, during my entire fandom of this series.
Give thanks you for that, sir.

You lot're welcome, just it was caejones you should give credit to. He wrote the post.

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